Friday, March 19, 2010

Defending The Indefensible - 16: The Rolling Stones



The concept of music criticism-as-dialogue works a lot better over this exchange of views about The Rolling Stones on Facebook than (say) the one about The Doors, for several reasons.

1. No one really believes The Doors are worthy of much defence in the first place. No one's passionate about them either way: everyone is aware they are a slightly shit, slightly pretentious detour from good music that received disproportionate attention because some dude died. (This happens with all groups where some dude or some babe dies.) Whereas The Rolling Stones are the bedrock upon which pretty much all preconceptions of rock'n'roll have been built. They're absolutely central and crucial to an understanding of the medium... so much so that to admit to a dislike for them is tantamount to acknowledging that you don't like rock'n'roll at all.

2. A couple of respected music critics weighed in with their opinions midway and at the start of the dialogues: and yes, informed opinion - especially when wittily represented - does still have its place in conversations about rock'n'roll, at least round these parts. The Doors dialogue was seen as a bit of a joke, a light-hearted riposte to hype: folk really, really could not believe that I would dare to even utter a dislike for The Rolling Stones, let alone a hatred for one of their most venerated albums (Exile On Main Street). Sure, the to-and-fro of Facebook commentary degenerated into name-calling on occasion. This is part of the fun and annoyance of being on a public forum, though.

3. It comes down to passion. Folk passionately love The Rolling Stones. Folk passionately hate them. The passion is strong enough on both sides to want to convert unbelievers. The greatest music criticism has always been written by fans. Ask Lester Bangs...oh no, wait. He's dead, and also over-hyped because of it. (Folk would be using my name with similar reverence these days if I'd had the good taste to die around 1995.)

There was also a lot of commentary on Twitter about my views on the Stones, but Twitter isn't about dialogue.
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Everett True I'm going to bed now. Play nice. And admit to yourself... wouldn't rock'n'roll have been so much more fun if Rolling Stones had never existed?
Today at 22:42 · Comment · Like

Andrea Pavanello and Graham Henry like this.

Graham Henry
sleep well
Today at 22:43 ·

Simon Keeler
rolled gold...essential soundtrack for all children under 10...you knows it, you cant deny your kids it...
Today at 22:43 ·

Saša Bonková
:D it's funny but it's truth :D
Today at 22:44 ·

Dan Cross
But them punk kids wouldn't have been able to rebel against them and make punk, but actually yeah most punk is shit, so good point
Today at 22:44 ·

Simon Price
No.
Today at 22:44 ·

Andrea Pavanello
goodnight and thanx for sayin' that.
Today at 22:44 ·

Saul Pullivan
No.
Today at 22:45 ·

Bollinger Bevanite
Life would have been more interesting if The Stones of Rolling Stones fan's imagination had existed,rather than the half way decent singles band who never made a decent single after the mid 70s.
Today at 22:46 ·

Andrea Pavanello
the rolling stones rocked... for a while and as a spurt... but like Giotto and Cimabue... they've been ridiculized by their sons.
Today at 22:46 ·

Graham Henry
the mc5 did more for rock and roll than the stones ever did......
Today at 22:47 ·

Saul Pullivan
of course there were better bands than the stones. but saying they didn't write any decent songs is just being controversial for the sake of it. ho hum.
Today at 22:49 ·

Andrea Pavanello
i don't give a fuck about the Stones when i have Fun House or Raw Power in my ears.
does anyone knows if Kurt Cobain liked the Stones?
Today at 22:50 ·

Tash-Marie Christian
he liked getting stoned.
Today at 22:54 ·

Ben Martin
What Graham Henry said. See also, 13th Floor Elevators/Sonics/Seeds.
Today at 22:58 ·

Graham Henry
too many to mention mate
Today at 23:14 ·

Douglas Baptie
There's an anecdote that says Nirvana jammed on Stones songs during a soundcheck during their 1990 UK tour. (Gimme Shelter FTW, BTW.)
Today at 23:35 ·

Neil Kulkarni
No Stones, no 'Nuggets'-era garage rock, no fun round here no fun. Sick of folk hating the cannon just cos it's the cannon. Yeah the Shaggs are the greatest band ever in the history of ever. If you say so.
11 hours ago ·

Erika Meyer
I don't get it. How?
11 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
People are in love with the idea of the Stones more than the actual music itself which is a bit dull. Do even Stones fans actually listen to their back catalogue regularly and get excited by it? Really excited and moved?
And their most damaging influence of all was on Primal Scream . Once a beautiful brilliant band now a Stones tribute act charging £38 a head for their latest UK dates.tour.
11 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
I DO LOVE how you get that cat, see those pigeons and just HURL it though ET. Y'shitstirrer!
10 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
You can blame the Stones for an awful lot. But that doesn't detract from the fact that they made some awesome records from time to time. Now YOU be honest!
9 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Frankie Goes To Hollywood have made some 'awsome' records but they are not held up as musical revolutionaries.
The Rolling Stones aren't shit they are just massively overated.
9 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Come off your plinth Neil.
9 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
No fucking way. Walk on gilded plinthers.
9 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
@ Cuzy: Frankie ARE held up as revolutionaries in my book. Anything that gets 'Middle-England' scared (albeit at the time it appears) is to be cherished.
9 hours ago ·

Everett True
The Stones did a couple of decent Arthur Alexander covers early on. But I prefer the originals.
9 hours ago ·

Everett True
And yes, they made some good records (long before 'Exile' was ever released, though)... but Bangs alive, they were responsible for some crap bands. Fucking TONS of crap bands. And we ain't just talking indie here. Not their fault, agreed. But: WOULDN'T ROCK'N'ROLL HAVE BEEN WAY MORE FUN IF THEY HADN'T EXISTED.
9 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
Who 'over-rates' the Stones anyhoo? Virtually everyone I've read outside of the dadrock press (who's veneration of them is unblinking and absolutely unilluminating) hates them. The Beatles are never hated as much as the Stones because the Beatles=pop=good/Stones=rock=horriblemen 'pparently. I just don't think a band with so much good stuff deserve such a brute dismissal as they seem to get from the anti-canonical new-curators of cool.
9 hours ago ·

Everett True
also, rightly or wrongly, they defined rock'n'roll for many many years - and continue to do so. and frankly, the kind of rock'n'roll they define is boring, turgid, posturing crap. Not their fault again, agreed. But: WOULDN'T ROCK'N'ROLL HAVE BEEN WAY MORE FUN IF THEY HADN'T EXISTED.
9 hours ago ·

Everett True
The surest way to get in an argument with any 'punk' (their definition) musician, Neil is to say you don't like the Stones. Year in, year out.
9 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
FGTH single releases were real events in the eighties but not revolutionary. Upsetting Mike Read doesn't count.
28 comments and no mention of the B word. it Won't Be Long.
9 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
If we must take the name of Bangs in vain, Jerry, then yes I see your point. However, remember that the Stones gave the inspiration to hundreds of 60s garage bands that in turn inspired subsequent great punk bands, some of whom were all to aware of the 'transgressive possiblilites' of pop and its attendant ideology. Don't forget that Jagger was adept at playing 'in character', which raises the age-old dichotomy of style vs substance...
9 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
'Posturing crap'... Hmmm...
9 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
Cuzy Cusack, i DO listen currently to the Rolling Stones back catalogue, much at my endless amazement and awe. As for every other negative comment about the Stones, we probably don't share the same idea about what rock'n'roll is. But mine is the right one, of course :)
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Cuzy hasn't got a clue.
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
I'd like to expand Jim's comment about Jagger playing in character. If you don't get that, you don't get r'n'r. It is anything but a serious thing. And my favourite punk band are the Heartbreakers and it kinda says all.
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
Everett, you only deserve praise for liking Arthur Alexander. But then you waste it.
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Horses for courses I suppose. Conservatives (how do you begin a sentence with conservatives with a small 'c'?) need to have their music too. Lets all be friends and wig out to 'Dancing in the Street'.
Boz, you're right, go on, give me a clue.
8 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
@ Cuzy: you say FGTH releases were not revolutionary but were considered 'real events'. Surely that does make them 'revolutionary' within the limited context of pop culture? I remember the early 80s and Frankie's name was everywhere, dividing opinion as great pop music should. How anyone can say 'Two Tribes' wasn't a benchmark moment (remember how that video made you feel back then) is in denial.
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
Ok now we're starting to get into politics and boring talks.
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Primal Scream are obviously still influenced by the Stones, but they have taken quite a few detours since their cover-band days. Pop down to your local library and borrow a few albums from the last decade. Treat yourself.

And the Stones' music is a 'bit dull'? You sad fucker. Have a Q-tip.
8 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
I apologise for getting political. Perhaps that's indicative of the way music journalism went for a while many years ago. Anyway, how wonderful is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Let me see if I've got the formula right... Scratchy old Blues. Check! Obscure early 60's garage bands. Check! Bleeding-edge-synth-worriers-praying-to-be-signed-before-they're-found-out. Check! W00T! Am I in the gang?! Am I!? Am I!?
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
No it was Cuzy that drew in the word conservative. Like if with just "conservative" and "progressist" you could understand everything.
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Cuzy's off the map, Francesco. Politically AND musically. The likes of you and I can never hope to understand him...
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Jim I agree, been there didnt buy the t-shirt but I loved Frankie but looking back they didnt really influence anyone musically. Maybe they taught some people that the media can be manipulated to some degree but I doubt it. They didn't kick any movement off eithereven within pop music. It was just pop. I think we should see what our mutual friend Bridget Dack thinks.
Boz - "still influenced by the stones?" Can you hear shades of Jagger in All Fall Down or Velocity Girl? It was something they acquired along the way. MC5 or 13th floor elevators wouldn't charge £38 a ticket. Or I'd like to think not.
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Boz - fuck off to bed.
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
Ok now i get it. The Stones' music suck 'cause they made money and enjoyed it.

Any of those you mentioned'd make you pay the same, if they were half as famous. It's as simple as that.
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
like the beatles didnt make money? No you dont get it.
8 hours ago ·

David Whitelock
Absolutely....cant abide them
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
The beatles have reunited and are touring now?
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
I paid about £30 quid to see them play with Primal Scream last year. They were selling t-shirts in the lobby, too. I think they might even have recordings of their music available on different media... Th-they're not... making MONEY out of MUSIC!?!?

Still no luck locating that clue?
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
Have we a socialist music critic?
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Cuzy 'No Clue' Cusack... Clueless Cusack... No-Cluzy... Just trying out some new names for you. See how they fit.
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Oh, we've had a flurry. That was MC5 I saw playing with Ver Scream, btw.
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
yes we have Francesco. Have we someone who doesnt know what conservative with a small c means?
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
I don't, go on and explain. I'm only an italian, and how funny it would be if understood YOUR culture better than you? :)
8 hours ago ·

Boz Boswell
Oh, Cluzy... having a go at the Italian's English. Nice. Very elegant.
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
As i read not so long ago on Dion DiMucci's page (by the way I hope you worship him as he deserves) you cannot undestand what socialism is, you didn't saw it. But at least you can have your try at rock'n'roll :)
8 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
I'm sorry Francesco. Only an Italian? Whats all that about?
Anyway, it means less likely to take risks and sceptical of anything different. Nothing to do with politics.
8 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
@ Cuzy: I wish Bridget would add her tuppence here! I suspect she would come out totally in favour of the Stones. Anyway, we have hijacked this thread and are getting indulgent. The beautiful thing about music criticism is that it's so simultaneously relevant and transient. So glad I didn't make a career out of it...
8 hours ago ·

Francesco Benati
No problem, i was ironic about being only an italian. Yes, i get the distinction, but after all i keep thinking politics have to do with it :)
7 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
We are all still friends then and thats nice.
7 hours ago ·

Craig Spann
Jesus Jerry, what have you done?
7 hours ago ·

Marcus Jay
Woody Cretins to a man they are, but without the we wouldn't have had that catchy 80s indie hit "Godstar".
6 hours ago ·

Colin Buchan Liddell
ET, "Monkey Man" knocks most of your faves into a cocked hat. Try to be "objective" rather than "clever."
6 hours ago ·

Cuzy Cusack
Who's objective when it comes to music?
Give me opinionated and clever anytime.
6 hours ago ·

Marcus Jay Woody
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think it might be impossible to be objective when it comes to personal taste.
6 hours ago ·

Alan Knight
Perssonally I prefer the junior wanker bands who wil disappear without a trace before year's end. By the way, is dad rock related to pimply adolescent, I can shout louder than you rock?
6 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
Would rock and roll have been more fun? That's the interesting question. Maybe. It might have been a bit less male, a bit less prone to those shapes the Stones threw. But the Stones made those shapes more real and ambiguous than any of their followers - I think they're in the bloodstream of music, like the Beatles and it's down to all of us whether you think that's rock's disease or not. I still listen and get things and learn things from both bands so I still listen. But when you hear both bands they blot out who they've influenced.
I have a similar blindspot for the Smiths as I think you have for the Stones ET and I suspect in both cases it's the lead singer that we truly can't stand. I suffer the same blind-to-the-whole cos I-can't-hack-the-frontman feel with Blur.
6 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
Thing is, reading this thread has made me feel 15 again. I don't know what came over me. Those defensive fan-reflexes. Were you even at the same gig etc - i'm not so much indignant as protective - i avered from typing how dare you call Keith Richard a cretin show some bloody respect - so thankyou. Charlie's good tonight inne?
6 hours ago ·

Neil Kulkarni
"Play nice". Arf arf.
6 hours ago ·

Marcus Jay Woody
They are definitely in the bloodstream
6 hours ago ·

Stevie Chick
love you ET but yr so wrong here.
4 hours ago ·

Stevie Chick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNtZOBhV5SQ
4 hours ago ·

Siddharth Pratap
fun, compared to the you're soo right et.
2 hours ago ·
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Everett True The Rolling Stones fucked rock'n'roll for everyone; and not in a good way. It's still recovering.
Today at 22:27 · Comment · Like

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Chris Roberts
Today, you're my hero.
Today at 22:28 ·

Everett True
Chris, I have a beam on my face as wide as this. I have to go to bed now. Anything else will be downhill.
Today at 22:29 ·

Astrid Navel
Gazer WTF ???
Today at 22:30 ·

Everett True
I've got in more arguments with more musicians on this point than almost any other. Um. More musicians in crap groups, I should add...
Today at 22:30 ·

Andrea Pavanello
you mean they locked it in a shoe box and made it a thing for lazy minds?
Today at 22:30 ·

Duncan Macphee
Rolling Stones/Pearl Jam - The Beatles/Nirvana
Today at 22:31 ·

Everett True
I even put that very suggestion to Keith Richards in an Oklahoma hotel room once. He muttered something incomprehensible, laughed and passed me the joint.
Today at 22:31 ·

Simon Keeler
hahahah, this is brilliant...i love it... you'll be telling me Brian Jones was a fucking idiot next... keep up the good work ET.
Today at 22:32 ·

Andrea Pavanello
i think that's one of the best things Keith did in his whole life.
Duncan is the man.
Today at 22:33 ·

Andrea Pavanello
Simon: they killed Brian... literally.
Brian was the man behind their only good record.
Today at 22:34 ·

Simon Price
I can't come with you on this one, ET. "Miss You", "Emotional Rescue" and "Undercover Of The Night" piss over all of your favourite records.
Today at 22:34 ·

Everett True
Do they? How coarse!
Today at 22:35 ·

Helen McGrath
I'm w/ you andrea. I hate jagger with a passion
Today at 22:36 ·

Daniel Mayhew
Do you do requests ET? Can you sledge Led Zeppelin next? I hate Led Zeppelin.
Today at 22:37 ·

Andrea Pavanello
Jagger sucks...
Keith is analphabetism on a guitar... maybe ten good riffs... but you can't always write the same song...
Today at 22:38 ·

Andrea Pavanello
Thurston Moore said the best thing on Jagga...
ask Stevie Chick! we love Stevie Chick!
and by the way MORE JAGER, LESS JAGGER.
Today at 22:39 ·

Astrid Navel Gazer
Sounds like a nasty and bitter case of Failed Rock Star Syndrome to me....this is what happens when one eats too many sour grapes :-/
Today at 22:40 ·

Daniel Mayhew
And Pink Floyd too.
Today at 22:40 ·

Simon Keeler
hahhaa, you indie berks the lot of you. i am going to crawl back under my rock and listen to cro-magnon
Today at 22:42 ·

Tom Warburton
The Stones were the whining, snot-nosed kid pissing in rock n’ roll’s kiddie pool. Pussy galore got it right.
Today at 23:03 ·

Ian Wilson
The heart and soul went of the Stones with Brian. The early singles I would rate. They were never a great albums band.
Today at 23:22 ·

Jeff Tartakov
except for the first two or three albums they made without Brian...
Today at 23:36 ·

Ben Preece
Controversial statement
Today at 23:50 ·

Neil Kulkarni
Haters keep hating. I have Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Beggars, Bleed, Fingers, Exile, Black N Blue, Some Girls and therefore I have life. The Stones are and will always be my favourite band of all time and they're a hell of alot less straightahead than you folks seem to think. Like any true originals they bequeathed us things great and gruesome. Don't blame them for those less-literate dumbass musicians who think they're only about 'Jumpin Jack flash' and heroin-chic.
13 hours ago ·

Erika Meyer
The Stones also helped bring less-mainstream artists like Howlin' Wolf and later, Peter Tosh, crossover recognition.
11 hours ago ·

Jeff Tartakov
Yeah, they're regular Good Samaritans. Ask Mick Taylor.
11 hours ago ·

Erika Meyer
JT, Yes, I think it is cool when successful artists make the effort to publicly recognize other less-mainstream artists from whom they borrow and/or are influenced, especially if it is done in a way that is respectful and helps the less-mainstream artists' careers.

AFA taking sides in any band's infighting, I try to avoid...
11 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
Yes, and bands like Throbbing Gristle fucked rock'n'roll in a different way that we are still coming to terms with. My question is, is it possible to love both?
9 hours ago ·

Erika Meyer
Rock 'n' roll died in 1959. The whole British invasion fucked rock 'n' roll by raising it from the dead. Now it stomps around like a zombie, hungry for human flesh.
9 hours ago ·

Everett True
I love this phrase from above, "The Stones were the whining, snot-nosed kid pissing in rock n’ roll’s kiddie pool. Pussy galore got it right."
9 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
Yes, Pussy Galore did. But The Stooges contaminated the rock'n'roll gene pool forever...
8 hours ago ·

Erika Meyer
Keith Richards had the right response. Love!
8 hours ago ·
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Everett True Here's the deal. Name me one good song from 'Exile On Main Street' and I'll show you a fool.
Today at 21:57 · Comment · Like

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Keir Hardie
Keith Richards said: ""When it came out it didn't sell particularly well at the beginning, and it was also pretty much universally panned. But within a few years the people who had written the reviews saying it was a piece of crap were extolling it as the best frigging album in the world." The Rolling Stones invented Oasis reviewing!
Today at 21:59 ·

Jon Slade
eh, Tumbling Dice? I've never heard the whole album, but I notice it has a song on it called Turd On The Run, that can't be bad can it?
Today at 21:59 ·

Saul Pullivan
stop breaking down
Today at 22:00 ·

Saul Pullivan
oh.
Today at 22:00 ·

Ben Harrison
The best song on it is probably a Robert Johnson cover. A politically incorrect one at that.
Today at 22:04 ·

Everett True
Is that the one called 'Turd On The Run'?
Today at 22:05 ·

Daniel Mayhew
What the Liz Phair album? Fuck and Run.
Today at 22:05 ·

Simon Price
I HATE HATE HATE that album (and I love the Stones). It's the record that invented Primal bloody Scream.
Today at 22:05 ·

Kevin Coultas
Totally agree!
Today at 22:09 ·

Saul Pullivan
stop breaking down is the robert johnson cover.
Today at 22:11 ·

Everett True
And 'Shine A Light On Me' is the nearest any of those 90s indie bands like Spiritualized ever got to a gospel record
Today at 22:12 ·

Dan Cross
The first song is fucking cool, colour me a fool.
Today at 22:14 ·

Chris Roberts
This is a most commendable crusade you're on, ET
Today at 22:16 ·

Ben Harrison
I knew it was 'Stop Breaking Down', but I didn't want to name a song. But I guess I'm busted either way. I do like a lot of Sticky FIngers though. I knew about it b/c of some MM single of the week. Come covered its I Got the Blues. Ha.

Come covered indeed.
Today at 22:16 ·

Dan Cross
Seriously does Everett hate the Stones? WTF!
Today at 22:17 ·

Saul Pullivan
i reckon a re-appraisal could be due for someone like the quietus?
Today at 22:20 ·

Daniel Mayhew
I wished any of this mattered. Still, entertaining to read. Carry on.
Today at 22:29 ·

Andrea Pavanello
Everett i love you!
Today at 22:29 ·

Ian Wilson
Call it amazing, or call it a turd-its the sound of Keef's Les Paul and Charlies drums in that chateau that wil f%$# you all.
Today at 23:15 ·

Andrew Hitchcock
Never heard it, is it not good?
13 hours ago ·

Jack Endino
I'm with Ev here...
11 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
Not their best LP granted. But those early 7"s have a vitality that still rings true.
9 hours ago ·

Jim Smith
@ Chris Roberts - should music journalism be about a 'crusade'? I'd like to think so but somehow it's always like pissing in the wind. I do recall a review of yours stating that Kevin Rowland's My Beauty was one of the greatest records ever recorded. I was one of the few punters who agreed with you. The question is, were you just being contrary or was there an agenda or is it really one of the great long-lost LPs?
9 hours ago ·
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Everett True
Heard 'Exile On Main Street' all the way through for the first time today. Man, that album is a pile of unexpurgated shite. Still. Might explain a few things...
Yesterday at 22:57 · Comment · Like

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Simon Keeler
hahahaha...that sure does explain loads to me!!!
Yesterday at 23:14 ·

Everett True
well. sure. it's a two-edged statement. but it does explain why *for instance* I don't like all those indie bands such as Spiritualized whose only encounter with a "gospel" song is 'Shine A Light On Me'
Yesterday at 23:16 ·

Claire 'Kwak' Welles
"it's a classic though...it's mint, premiership stuff maaan!", so is 'a rush of blood to the head' now apparently.

personally, i'd go for 'at the club' by kenickie ANY DAY over these nobs
Yesterday at 23:18 ·

Everett True
it also explains why I can't stand The Clash
Yesterday at 23:20 ·

Simon Keeler
i only like two types of music
Yesterday at 23:21 ·

Everett True
rock and roll?
Yesterday at 23:21 ·

Simon Keeler
HEAVY, and METAL
Yesterday at 23:36 ·

Gordon Learmonth
you might enjoy the pussy galore's record/tape... (which covers the whole record) a whole bunch more than the stones
Today at 00:03 ·

Neil Kulkarni
You are all wrong. But just go ahead being righteous.
Today at 00:10 ·

Neil Kulkarni
Although, I, too, HATE the Clash
Today at 00:11 ·

Simon Keeler
Exile is one of the all time greats - it makes one dance very easily! Clash, over rated...and boring..
Today at 00:18 ·

Frances Morgan
I like 'Exile On Main Street'. I know all yr arguments against it, and still I like it. And yes, I too hate the Clash.
Today at 00:34 ·

Pete Dublo
mostly i like them both, but to honest, somedays neither
Today at 01:35 ·

Grant Cogswell
You are charming, but totally insane.
Today at 02:01 ·

Angus Stevenson
You know, we all like different things
Today at 03:47 ·

Art Chantry
still my all time favorite music. sorry. jes' th' facks, ma'am.
Today at 04:07 ·

Marcus Jay Woody
Is it really shit?

For some reason I cannot explain that really makes my day.

Maybe it is because their public image is that they are a bunch of pricks.
Today at 06:48 ·

Jack Sargeant
Pussy Galore's version was pretty fun.
Today at 07:21 ·

Everett True
Yeah, that was the only other time I heard the album. Gotta say I preferred the first version I heard, by some distance
Today at 07:22 ·

3 comments:

  1. I've never been very passionate about The Doors,I still am not,and I've never considered them as a particularly talented band.
    Only now that I'm starting to recognize the significance of the role they had been playing in the late 60's I realize that,want it or not,this band had been a really huge band at the time,more than I could ever imagine,maybe more than Rolling Stones themselves could ever expect.
    Sure,Jim Morrison was the key,he was the heart.
    He was The Doors,and I'm not talking about the dude who died,no,I'm talking about the dude who desperately wanted to live,the dude who wrote his visionary lyrics about terrific urges to rebellion,to instinctivity,to ravenous challenges,to disorder,to isolation,to despair.
    Hear his cries,hear his labyrinth and getlost.
    The Doors are not shit probably because they actually never existed:they've never been a group.

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    Roddy Thomson, Sabuhi Mir and Jimmy Cairney like this.

    Everett True
    I defy anyone to reach the bottom of it!
    19 March at 15:18 ·

    Jason Graham
    I'm proud that I was past the age of 20 years old before I realised Paint It Black wasn't by AC/DC
    19 March at 17:04 ·

    Everett True
    By the Modettes, right?
    19 March at 17:37 ·

    Didier Becu
    No one can deny Rolling Stones were important, no one can deny they released the greatest boring shit ever.
    And talking about defending the indefensible : the best version by "Paint It Black" ever was done by Echo & The Bunnymen.
    19 March at 18:29 ·

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  3. But what was I trying to say?...
    Does anybody know?

    You know what?THE DOORS ARE BORING.That's why I will never be passionate about them.

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