Defining the enemy 3

This final part is taken direct from the Sigur Rós message board (edited). What's interesting is that it's much more good-humoured and well-argued than the vast majority of the "Outraged of Hackney" comments on the Drowned In Sound threads. You'd think it would be the other way round. Respect due this handful of Sigur Rós fans, then.

dot
Sigur Rós are not meaningful, cathartic or emotive
Not my words, but Everett True's
http://everetttrue.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/defending-the-indefensible-%E2%80%93-4-sigur-ros/#more-960
How dare he?!? Such sacrilege!! Going to have to go and listen to () to calm down, might even need a few b-sides as well before I'm fully recovered.

flo
hahahaha
i certainly don't know sigur ros well, and while this probably doesn't apply to their earlier stuff, it seems spot on concerning what i've heard from them in the past 5 years.

Alline
"if i remove all the words not" in his review, it's OK, very good article for SR :O)
seriously, it's obviously a provocation, i don't know who is this writter, he behaves like a dismissed lover (or journalist) hihi. (i have read the article very quickly and haven't understood everything, but i think that i understood the general meaning)

lij
but flo, he speaks badly of girls aloud

flo
it's not really the main focus of the article, i'll let him get away with that.

rwdelos5517
to each their own.to each their own.

killie
Someone should have mentioned to the dude that name-dropping (crap) British artists no longer gets you a free ride on the ferry heading to Cool as Fuck Asshole Island. At least he didn't give a shout out to Coldplay.

dot
He has in the past tho...
http://everetttrue.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/defending-the-indefensible-1-coldplay/#more-673

arnfdeno
well he does call himself a fading music critic.

rwdelos5517
"Slowing stuff down doesn’t make music more ’serious’ or more ’soulful’, it just makes it slower."
then the same thing could be said for tool, who i think has made the best music of their career the past 8 years.
sigur keep making mindblowing music, period. same for tool.

killie
"Slowing stuff down doesn’t make music more ’serious’ or more ’soulful’, it just makes it slower."
honestly you can't really argue with that bit at all... it's dead on.

Willow
...well he does call himself a fading music critic.
If this was Facebook, I would like that.

Bird_Gerhl
One time I tried to argue with some one that while *I* like "emotional" music, the stuff *he* listened to wasn't emotional at all and that's why I didn't like it. He responded that what's emotional is a matter of opinion...his favorite music was moving for him, even though it wasn't for me.
And that's all this Everett guy's rant is...a matter of opinion. He's entitled to it, even though I don't agree with it.

maaaa
I've spent some time with Everett True in the past, including one day at his playing records in the indie 1980s. When he told me that he preferred The Razorcuts to The Byrds because he hated the canon of rock, I knew we could never really get along. For him, music is about ownership and building an identity (as it is for all of us, but most if us don't build such a public persona) - and so liking The Razorcuts, people he actually knew and could champion, helped make him central to the scene.

The limits to ET's approach are summed up by his relationship to Nirvana, getting close to Kurt and the group in indie days, and retaining access during the period of mega success. This must have been a dream come true. But in terms of music, Smells Like teen Spirit, while a great record, has nothing to do with indie, with Beat Happening, K Records anymore. It's a straight great rock record, like More Than A feeling by Boston.

Can you imagine ET admitting that More Than A Feeling was a great rock record? I'm sure he'd rather die.

Which brings us to SR. Nothing he says here can take away the thought of the group playing ("new shit") Von to a hut full of family and friends in Heima. To me that is juat an inarguably honest, pure and musical performance. If it all ended tomorrow for SR, these people would all be making beautiful music somewhere or other, even if just for themselves. They're not a rock critic backed or created band particularly. They're a bunch of hillbillies who gave us a miracle and kept giving more. You get more sense out of 14 year olds posting comments on YouTube about Untitled 8 than Everett gives us here.

He is good on 60s pop and girl groups though, and personally I owe him a debt for showing me how great the Supremes are.

!linus
"But in terms of music, Smells Like teen Spirit, while a great record, has nothing to do with indie, with Beat Happening, K Records anymore. It's a straight great rock record"
maybe it has become that... but then that's probably so because of its own success and the way it redefined how a straight great rock record should sound like rather than with how the album was perceived by people while it was being recorded...

munross
He's added that (^^) to the article. You're famous, maaaaaaaa.
P.S. At least he cared enough to include the accent over the o. What a nice man.

maaaa
Ooh, I feel a bit ungentlemanly getting personal under the cloak of anonymity. My writing looks pretty weedy under his.

And !linus, I just wasn't clear enough, the point about Nirvana becoming like Boston was made by Kurt himself,. Just picture Everett and Kurt grooving along to Daniel Johnston records but then arguing badly over, I dunno, Grand Funk Railroad.

Well, I'm off to read ET's article on The Cake!

killie
^ haha maaaa i think your point of view looks damn good under his little rant actually, and it looks like he's giving you a tip of the hat there too.
It's awesome I think :)